Today the Pensacola City Council, sitting as the Committee of the Whole, unanimously voted for a resolution “requesting Amtrak to restore Sunset Limited rail passenger service in Florida”:
Be it resolved by the City Council of the City of Pensacola, Florida … [t]hat the City Council strongly supports and joins in the efforts of other communities across the Gulf Coast and Florida Panhandle regions to request Amtrak to restore and reestablish passenger rail service and the Sunset Limited route from New Orleans, Louisiana to Jacksonville/Sanford, Florida as part of Amtrak’s investment in Florida.
The Escambia County Commission and the City of Milton have passed similar resolutions recently.
As many will recall, Sunset Limited is the Amtrak route that, before Hurricane Katrina, spanned the United States — from Los Angeles to Jacksonville. It was the only transcontinental rail service in the country, and it was the only route that served Pensacola and the Florida Gulf Coast.
Hurricane Katrina damaged several spans of track east of Corpus Christi. The tracks were quickly repaired and service restored to New Orleans, but no further. Pensacola is one of thirteen Amtrak stations that have sat dormant for almost seven years.
As part of the Passenger Rail Investment and Improvement Act of 2008, Congress demanded that Amtrak deliver a plan for restoring rail service to the Gulf Coast.
In that report, Amtrak presented three options, with a financial analysis of each option:
- Restoring the tri-weekly Sunset Limited service as it was before Hurricane Katrina. “This option ranked well in the aggregate, with considerably lower capital and operating costs than the other options due to its limited, tri-weekly frequency and the fact that it would not require purchase of additional equipment (which also gave it a shorter implementation time).”
- Extending the daily City of New Orleans service, which currently runs from Chicago to New Orleans, all the way to Orlando. “Combining the Chicago-to-New Orleans and New Orleans-to-Orlando segments creates potential for operational issues due to increased trip length (1,694 route miles), but this potential is estimated to be significantly lower than the operational issues presented by Option 1.”
- Creating a new daily service, Gulf Wind, that would run from New Orleans to Orlando. “This option would produce a more consistent service due to shorter route length (786 miles)… However, Option 3 has the highest projected operating losses and produces the lowest number of additional passenger miles (80.5) per trail mile operated, in large part because all passengers traveling to points north or west of New Orleans would have to change trains.”
The Pensacola station was reported in good condition with an ADA score of 82 — the highest of all suspended service stations. (Mobile’s station had a score of 0.) The report also noted how beneficial a service restoration would be to the beleaguered Gulf Coast area:
Even before Hurricane Katrina and the current recession, most of the region between New Orleans and Orlando that was served by the suspended Sunset Limited service had considerably less economic prosperity than the United States as a whole. … Restoration of passenger rail service in the Gulf Coast Region would create jobs; increase state/local tax revenues; and could give a boost to the area’s local tourism industry. Daily passenger rail service would provide increased mobility and local economic benefits, although it would require much higher levels of public funding than tri-weekly service.
There is absolutely no question that restoring service would be great for Pensacola and the Gulf Coast, and as the National Association of Railroad Passengers pointed out, in FY 2004, passengers using the New Orleans-Orlando segment (only 28% of the Sunset Limited‘s total miles) generated 41% of the route’s revenue. But will service be restored? Probably not.
As usual, it’s all about money. Implementing any of the three plans would cost between $32.7 million and $96.6 million for one-time mobilization and capital expenses, with annual operating losses estimated between $4.8 million and $18.4 million.
“The Sunset Limited route historically has one of the highest per passenger subsidies,” said Dan McFaul, chief of staff and press secretary for Congressman Jeff Miller. “Given the cost to restore Amtrak service from New Orleans to Orlando, and the high losses with the past operation of the line, it is unlikely to be reestablished in the immediate future.”
Yes, the costs of restoring service would be high, but keep in mind that Amtrak received $1.49 billion in federal subsidies for the year 2009 — $165 million more than the previous year alone — plus the $1.3 billion appropriated in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009. With that amount of money going to support Amtrak, what’s another $10 million or so in yearly subsidies? Shouldn’t the taxpayers along the Gulf Coast expect to see something for our money?
McFaul said that Congressman Miller “is opposed to raising Amtrak subsidies and supports moving towards sustainability of operations without taxpayer funds. Like most in the community, we would like to have the service running through Northwest Florida again. However, this nation is at a point financially where we most prioritize not what we want, but rather what we need.”
The problem is that the train has left the station, so to speak. While Congress required Amtrak to develop a plan to restore service, there was no requirement to follow through with it. National sympathy for the Gulf Coast after Hurricane Katrina faded with time, and President Obama’s stimulus package — with $8 billion set aside for rail transportation — made additional Amtrak appropriations a tough sell. (Governor Scott’s famous refusal of $2 billion in federal funds for the proposed Florida High Speed Rail probably didn’t do us any favors either.) No one wants to ask for the money anymore.
And — sorry to be such a downer here — even in the unlikely event that Amtrak returned, it wouldn’t be the romantic picture of a bustling rail station that many would hope. In the three service options Amtrak proposed, these were the arrival times for Pensacola: 1:59 am, 2:29 am, 11:29 pm, 4:29 am, 1:30 am, and 11:25 pm. In other words, you’d be waiting for the train in the middle of the night, and for the rest of the day, the station would look largely as it does now: unused and empty.

16 comments
Becky says:
Feb 7, 2012
;(
JimLoomis says:
Feb 13, 2012
Also, please keep in mind that current legislation put forth in the U.S. House under the “leadership” of Florida Republican John Mica (Palm Coast area) would gut Amtrak’s budget and probably result in the cancellation of other long-distance trains, let alone restoring the Sunset Limited’s Florida service. Mica is a blowhard who for years has insisted on referring to Amtrak with a sneer as “America’s soviet-style railroad”. Would restoring the Sunset route be a good idea and good for Florida? Of course! But as long as Republican ideologues like John Mica have any say, it will never happen. (What else can you expect from someone who obviously doesn’t own a mirror!)
Mark Clabaugh says:
Feb 14, 2012
Jim, I too support this train adding Pensacola as a stop. Even though I never rode the train, I someday would out of a sense of adventure. I also agree that I do not agree with Mica’s characterization of Amtrack.
However, we depart on the slam of Republicans. We now have a DEMOCRAT in the Whitehouse and our DEFICIT will go over 1 TRILLION DOLLARS. This is totally insane … IN fact, I am not sure any President racked up that much debt in all the years they were in office. Imagine 1 TRILLION Dollars. Do you have any idea how much money 1 TRILLION dollars is … let me help you. You and I are hanging out with Jesus, we could spend 1.3 MILLION Dollars a day, every day and today we would still have money left over.
It is TOTALLY INSANE and Unsustainable … so I ask you now that you know this … Where would you start cutting expenses, subsidies? Eliminating wasteful segments of the Government like the Department of Education who teaches no one but blows 50 Billion a year, exactly where would you cut. Becuase, we have to and if we do not … you will see a financial disaster of biblical perportions in this country.
What a way to run a country says:
Feb 14, 2012
I’m afraid that if the people don’t get involved in government it will be a disastrous result. From bottom to top government representatives are out of touch with reality. The reality is grim with job losses corporate bailouts and unfair taxing and America is not manufacturing much but China is.
Our military spread all over the world
Deficits like never before
and all the while as we spiral downward…………more promises of “entitlements” . Who is the genius that decided welfare should be called an entitlement?
These are no Kennedy democrats. What happened to the hand up not a hand out? We have created lifers on the system.
Thoth Calvert says:
Feb 15, 2012
Amtrak service coast-to-coast should be restored! We have too much air traffic … too much highway traffic … baby boomers approaching age when driving becomes difficult or impossible … people living much longer … young adults who can’t afford a car. This industry is not nearly as subsidized as the airline industry … add up all the federal funds over the years for airport construction. We should be building the most advanced bullet train system in the world, connecting all the major cities … meanwhile open these lines back up … let military, students, retirees, and children have a discount pass. This will be good for the economy and the environment, and a fun way for Pensacola residents to travel to New Orleans.
Mark Clabaugh says:
Feb 15, 2012
Thoth, the airline infrastructure, airports, etc are funded by the fees you see on your tickets.
barefoots says:
Feb 15, 2012
I agree with Mr. Calvert and others, who would like to see Amtrak back in Pensacola. Scream all you wish, about deficits and politicians. The fact of the matter is, being tightwads is no way to help a city to grow, nor to help the general economy. If we do not make investments in our city, things will only get worse.
Bring back Amtrak. Increase public transit, both locally (eCat), and interstate bus and train services.
Andrew Lodriguss says:
Feb 15, 2012
Does anyone realize that TIGER grants can be used to rebuild or reapir any part of America’s transportation infrastructure? Amtrak is a vital part of our transportation infrastructure, and Thoth, I’m VERY glad that you brought up the point that as the boomers age, they won’t be driving. Nor will they want to strip down and put up with the ridculous but necessary security policies that are a part of air travel. What I’m saying is that Congress can require TIGER to provide the funds required to restore train service to the Gulf Coast. I need this train back in service, and if you do, contact your senators, please. We can’t get the train rolling again with silence
LM says:
Feb 19, 2012
Awesome photography!
Mark Clabaugh says:
Feb 19, 2012
Photoshop!
jasandros says:
Feb 24, 2012
I have rode the Sunset Limited out of Pensacola in BOTH directions and except for a few rude crewmen, it was a lot of fun. I doubt if we will ever see a passenger Train through this town ever again. What is not generally known is that Amtrak was looking for ways to cancel the “Sunset” east of New Orleans BEFORE Katrina ever struck. The Train was on occasion, arriving through Pensacola quite late. I once observed the Sunset rolling east through the freight yard at Fairfield Drive at four thirty in the afternoon. At other times, it was just annulled if its eastbound arrival into New Orleans was late enough. Katrina only gave Amtrak the excuse it was looking for to get rid of the run from New Orleans to the east coast. It had no intention of restoring the Train once the Tracks were repaired.
The current anti rail administration in Tallahassee has canceled any proposed rail projects in Florida, therefore the restoration of Amtrak service is not even an issue with them.
Historically, Pensacola was not even considered a part of Florida and this attitude was reflected in some old maps of Florida which stopped at the capitol. This attitude persists today in the minds of our leaders. Its up to the people to dictate their needs, not the political factions in power.
pseudonyms okay says:
Feb 29, 2012
mark, please don’t comment on the state of our education system when you cannot correctly spell ‘proportion.’ further, our government has almost always subsidized air travel. please see the following link: http://www.narprail.org/cms/index.php/resources/more/aviation_subsidies/
although you will probably try to refute its legitimacy since there are citations from one of our nations newspapers of record, the new york times.
subsidized or not, if we cannot provide alternative means of mass transportation, the working class citizens of our region will continue to suffer.
Bill Hutchison says:
Feb 29, 2012
Hey everybody! These’s a new Facebook page dedicated to getting the Sunset Limited back!
http://www.facebook.com/#!/FriendsOfSunsetLimitedToFlorida
MikeMadAsHell says:
Jun 29, 2012
But we sure as hell have BILLIONS to ship to Africa and Afghanistan and Pakistan to help the “poor and needy” HEATHENS in those countries, don’t we? THANKS US GOVERNMENT FOR NOT TAKING CARE OF YOUR PEOPLE!!
linday says:
Nov 14, 2012
florida is full of people who shouldn’t be driving and cannot afford plane tickets. adding pensacola as a train stop would bring beneficial money to a poor community and be a cheaper and faster way for the military to travel. Bring it back!!!!!!!!
emmaatUCF says:
Feb 28, 2013
There are tons of people, including college kids like myself, who live in orlando/gainsville/etc and would like to go back home to NW FL occassionally. Although NOT for 250$ worth of gas and 6 hours of boring driving and NOT a 400$ plane ticket. amtrak would be SO beneficial for those wanting to travel from north to south FL and vice versa! it doesnt even have to be west of new orleans! Pleasse!